[WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: There's a problem
Bertrand de LA CHAPELLE
lachapelle at openwsis.org
Thu Oct 7 12:56:28 BST 2004
Dear Hervé,
Thanks for raising the question about Jonathan Cave - I do
not object at all, quite on the contrary. This is very good
for transparency and accountability and allows to clarify a
few points.
Françis gave some elements of reply and I think Jonathan
Cave himself will also make some precisions.
But I take this opportunity to make three comments : 1) on
connectors, 2) on Johathan Cave's affiliation and think
tanks, and 3) on the difference between this process and
traditional election mechanisms. This mail ended up being
much longer than I thought, but I hope you and others will
accept to spend the time to read it :-)
1) On Connectors
I did not have the opportunity to explain in more detail the
notion of connectors. This is a good time to do it.
The creation of the WGIG is a catch 22 : the WGIG should be
formed of people knowledgeable in the issues it will
address; but, at the same time, it will be the very people
forming the WGIG that will decide which issues the WGIG
should address ! this is circular; a somewhat recursive and
self-referring process.
The long and intense debate launched by Richard Stallman on
the PCT list about the opportunity for the WGIG to
address "intellectual property" issues was exemplary in that
regard. His take was : I do not want it to address those
issues because they will be framed in the wrong way; hence I
probably do not want to be part of it, because otherwise, it
would signal that "IP" (or "PCT" as he prefers) is on the
agenda. But would it not be worse if he were not
volunteering and the WGIG did address "IP" issues without
anybody opposing the move ? Catch 22 again.
So our idea was : start with a core definition and
anticipate the extension of the agenda. Whatever the debate
about the definition of Internet Governance and its scope
(restrictive or broad), it is obvious the initial thrust for
the creation of this working group was the DNS and ICANN
issue.
Accordingly, the natural first step is to designate
candidates for the Working Group that are more connected
with this restrictive dimension - that everybody agrees
shold be addressed. But, anticipating at the same time that
the agenda is going to broaden, we decided to create a list
of thematic outreach connectors that will come into play in
two respects :
- guaranteeing that anything done within the WGIG that is of
interest or relevance to their own caucuses will be known,
transmitted to the respective lists and treated for feedback
- being ready to help identify actors who may join the WGIG
core group or participate in the consultations organized
around issues belonging to the broader agenda.
In that context, those connectors are not, per se,
additional candidates to be included in the working Group
itself (they may be but it is not obligatory). they are the
focal and contact points that can help mobilize civil
society in an efficient way : preventing thematic caucus
members from loosing time in meetings only marginally
addressing issues they are interested in; but at the same
time not being out of the information loop and missing
important occasions to push their ideas forward.
It is the responsibility of each thematic caucus to
designate its connectors and they can change over time.
This description is only tentative and this notion is likely
to evolve as the process moves forward.
2) On Jonathan Cave's affiliation with RAND Europe
Yours is a perfectly legitimate concern.
A few points though, beyond what Françis has already
mentionned and what Jonathan himself may add.
There is a category within the CS families called "think
tanks" and it is even represented in the CS bureau as such.
I agree the term think tank can cover many different types
of entities. Furthermore, there is indeed a difference
between the work of think tanks and advocacy groups, as
there are differences between strong policy advocacy groups
and many NGOs that develop community activities at the
grassroots level on non controversial issues.
The diversity of civil society is one of its strengths.
corresponding raback is defining its frontiers is a
difficult task : I am not sure the boundaries are - or can
ever be - perfectly clear.
Still, there is one criteria I personnaly keep in mind : the
difference between the defense of a group's specific
interests and the search for the common good or the more
general interest.
There is nothing bad in the defense of group's interests :
many are very legitimate, particularly when their objectives
are transparent.
But in a policy environment like the one we are in, I tend
to favor actors who are trying to push for a collective
interest beyond the particular concerns of their members.
To take an extreme exemple, gender balance is not a fight
for women alone. It is not about a sub-group defending its
rights agains another sub-group (males) defending theirs. It
is about a deep belief that the involvement of women
(however difficult it is to achieve sometimes) is beneficial
to all, because it provides, precisely, a more balanced
vision of the world than the testosterone-driven, purely
competition-minded one we are presently living in.
To come back to Jonathan and think tanks : Think Tanks are
institutions that get their independence from the diversity
of their sources and that often includes, yes, corporations;
as many universities do as well.
The important distinction therefore is beetween lobbying
groups maskerading as think tanks (particularly in the US to
circumvent some legal dispositions trying to constraint
lobbying) and independent entities getting no-strings
attached financing, potentially from corporations.
In the present case :
- Rand Europe is different from RAND US (itself somewhat
different from what the former RAND was in the Vietnam years)
- Jonathan Cave is not representing RAND but works with them
on certain projects; his affiliation being more University
of Warwick and Club of Rome
- last but not least, Johathan Cave was not a nominee for
the core group at that stage, but the connector (see above)
designated by the cientific Information Caucus.
In the end, it is about the personal work of the individual.
The key question here being : is he or not a "faux nez" for
some private corporation interests or is he genuinely
conducting reserach with the goal of the general interest ?
Françis assures us this is true. Further check and
monitoring is always possible.
3) On the difference between this process and traditional
representative democracy elections
Hervé, your being able to raise this problem illustrates one
key feature that probably distinguishes normal election
processes from the kind of nomination we are attempting
here. Let me explain.
In a traditional election process, the WSIS Civil society
Caucus on Scientific information (as all others) would
elect - through its own procedures - a "delegate", or
a "representative" to a "highr body", in that case the slate
for the WGIG or even the WGIG itself. And nobody else would
or should have a say in this process, even if they believe
this person is completely inappropriate. In that sort of
framework, if you are not a member of the Scintific
information Caucus, you have no right to raise a concern
about the person it designates.
In the WGIG formation process, this is not appropriate. You,
as any member of the plenary have the right to challenge the
designation of one member of the slate if you feel he/she is
inappropriate. Why ? because the final slate should be
acceptable to all CS.
If I can take an analogy, it is a little as if, after the
american election, the rest of the worlld were able to say
whether this new president is acceptable or not, given the
influence he will have on everybody's life. This would not
mean having the american president elected by the whole
wolrd; but this would mean having a voice on something that
probably has more influence on our lifes than most of the
national elections we all participate in.
Conclusion and next steps
Of course, we are just exploring here and
discovering/drafting the rules as we move forward.
I wish we (the NomCom) had moved faster, established the
slate earlier and circulated it for final checking. But we
got caught in time.
This was a first experiment in trying to produce an
acceptable slate for all, starting from a bottom-up call and
testing mechanisms for selection along the way.
We can do better. In particular, in addressing Enrique's
remark on potential conflicts of interest, for which I have
no definitive answer so far.
Now the main quetion is : how is the WGIG itself going to be
formed ? what kind of influence can Civil Society have on
the final composition.
One element in particular is whether the submissions from
govenements and the private sector will be made public, as
civil society has done ?
The game is just begining.
I hope this long reply at least shows how much I care about
your concern, and hopefully will have alleviated part of it.
- I apologize for not even trying to translate it in french -
Best
Bertrand
Bertrand de LA CHAPELLE
Director
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