[WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: [Pwd] (unicode) persons with disability

[Monthian Buntan]

Dear Hiroshi:

Thanks a lot for your conclusion.  There're some times when generalized 
terms are much less controvertial.

Cheers,

Thian

PS: For those of you, who will be in Geneva, I'll be arriving tomorrow 
morning (December 9) and will stay at the Crown Plaza Hotel.  Hope to see 
you soon.

At 04:33 AM 12/8/2003, Hiroshi Kawamura wrote:
>Dear Elizabeth, Monthian, Aldred and all:
>
>Please permit me to post multiple lists since it concerns all of them:
>
>Regarding the wording for "persons with disabilities", at this point, we had
>better stick to the best available UN standard language to form a consensus
>namely "persons with disabilities".
>Actual inclusion of those all types of persons with disabilities need to be
>more encouraged and promoted.
>For your information, the Global Forum on Disability in the Information
>Society, a Summit Event, on 12th December at Hall 2 of Palexpo will include
>presentations of and for persons with mental disorder, autism, dyslexia,
>intellectual disability in addition to physical or sensory disabilities.
>
>Best
>
>Hiroshi
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Elizabeth Carll, PhD
>To: Monthian Buntan ; aneufel1 at telus.net ; Hiroshi Kawamura
>Cc: pwd at wsis-cs.org ; Rik Panganiban ; wsis-cs-plenary ; ct at wsis-cs.org
>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 12:11 AM
>Subject: RE: [Pwd] (unicode) [WSIS-CT] RE: [Ct-drafting] Please clarify
>
>
>Dear All,
>
>I appreciate the comments below and agree with Thian as to the term "persons
>with all types of disabilities" or persons with disabilities,  as long as
>the the health section and conclusion includes access to information
>specifically for both physical and mental health.  I will review and
>comment.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Elizabeth
>
>Dr. Elizabeth Carll
>Focal Point
>International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies
>Tel: 631-754-2424
>Fax: 631-754-5032
>ecarll at optonline.net
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pwd-admin at wsis-cs.org [mailto:pwd-admin at wsis-cs.org]On Behalf Of
>Monthian Buntan
>Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 6:47 AM
>To: aneufel1 at telus.net; Hiroshi Kawamura
>Cc: pwd at wsis-cs.org
>Subject: Re: [Pwd] (unicode) [WSIS-CT] RE: [Ct-drafting] Please clarify
>
>
>Dear all:
>
>When I suggest section 3.1.9, my main intention is address the matter of
>fundamental rights.  Therefore, I don't see any point in trying to list all
>categories of disabilities.  However, when some of us voice their concerns
>whether mental disability, which I believe, is also subject to be
>differently interpreted, I suggest the term "persons with all types of
>disabilties."  Then there was a counterproposal to say "persons with
>disabilities" including mental, physical and others.  My conclusion is that
>we should not provoke any debate on these terms here.  My concern is that
>we're at risk of confusing the whole civil society if we try to come up with
>words like these.  I myself, and many in the blindness and deafness
>communities, will be unhappy if the term "physical" is being used without
>referring to visual and hearing.  And I'm not sure if LD or autistic people
>are happy or not to be included under the term "mental disability."
>
>After all, I believe the term "persons with all types of disabilities",
>though a bit wordy, is the most inclusive and most compromising.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Thian
>
>At 05:12 PM 12/7/2003, aneufel1 at telus.net wrote:
>
>Hello Hiroshi
>I am a little confused. Does the following suggest that previous agreements
>providing assurance for accessibility by people with all types of impairment
>(ie. mental and physical) is at risk?
>
>Monthian's subsequent e-mail suggests to me that it may be, though my
>reading of
>the material below is that it speaks primarily to the way in which health
>information may be provided - and the added point that people with mental
>impairments of various kinds not be excluded. Please clarify.
>
>In terms of wording, it seems to me we are much better off talking about
>'health
>information' than the phrase 'health care information'.  The latter could be
>limited to 'care' provisions and issues.  I would think we should promote
>open
>access to all kinds of information, including research on health.
>
>Aldred Neufeldt
>Chair, GLADNET
>
>Quoting Hiroshi Kawamura <hkawa at attglobal.net>:
>
> > The following text is copied from WSIS-CT mailing list with permission of
> > original author. --- Hiroshi
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> >
> > The paragraph posted by Sally Burch, below is the latest and most accurate
> > version of the MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH CARE section for inclusion in
>the
> > "PRINCIPLES, GOALS AND CHALLENGES section ( or possibly in Social Justice
> > section), which I had submitted.
> >
> > The section should be titled;    MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH CARE
> >
> > The delivery of life-critical mental and physical health information can
>be
> > facilitated and improved through ICT-based solutions. Lack of access to
> > information and communication has been identified as a critical factor in
> > the public mental and physical health crises around the world. Experts
>have
> > suggested that providing citizens of underdeveloped countries with
> > community
> > level points of access to mental and physical health information would be
>a
> > critical starting point for addressing the mental and physical health care
> > crises. However, such access points should support more than one-way flows
> > of information (for example, from expert to community or patient).
> > Communities must be allowed to participate in the selection and creation
>of
> > communication flows that they find useful and necessary to address the
> > prevention, treatment, and promotion of mental and physical health care
>for
> > all people.
> >
> > In addition, please note the following revisions in brackets, which were
> > previously recommended but in latest draft have been omitted.  Please
> > re-insert.  Most of these refer to specifying mental and physical health,
> > as
> > opposed to only physical, and should be included for consistency and
> > clarity.
> >
> > 3.2.4 Access to Information and the Means of Communication, paragraph 3
> >
> > Specific needs and requirements of all stakeholders, including those with
> > [mental and physical] disabilities, must be....
> >
> > 3.2.5 Basic literacy, par 1 last sentence
> >
> > People-centered information technologies can foster eradication of [mental
> > and physical] illnesses and epidemics, can help give everyone food,
> > shelter,
> > freedom and peace.
> >
> > 3.2.5 Basic literacy, par 3 last sentence
> >
> > must include a focus on the needs of people who have [mental and] physical
> > impairments and all means of transcending those impairments ...
> >
> > 3.3.8 Human development â€â€œ education and training, par 2
> >
> >   Literacy, education, and research efforts in the Information Society
>must
> > include a focus on the needs of people who have [mental and] physical
> > impairments and all means of transcending those impairments....
> >
> >
> >
> > In par 4 -
> >
> >
> >
> > ...special needs: those of young and elderly people, of women, of people
> > with [mental and physical] impairments, of indigenous peoples, of migrant
> > communities, of refugees and returnees in post-conflict situations, in a
> > life-long perspective...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 3.3.9 Information generation and knowledge development - research, par 1,
> > sentence 3
> >
> >
> >
> > Clear principles should be developed for the use and exploitation of the
> > body of knowledge produced [e.g. Scientific research data should be gender
> > and age disaggregated for mental and physical health.]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 4. Conclusion, par 2, last sentence
> >
> >
> >
> > ....the right to a standard of living adequate for the [mental and
> > physical]
> > health and well-being of the individual and his or her family, including
> > food housing and (delete medical)  [mental and physical health]care.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 3.1.9 Rights of Persons with Disabilities: recommended by Monthian Buntan
> >
> >
> >
> > I also support the inclusion of the section below recommended by Monthian
> > Buntan, however, I would recommend the following revisions to be
>consistent
> > with the rest of the document.  While it is helpful to specify types and
> > degree of disabilities, these can be seen as referring to physical only as
> > often mental and physical health care have been disconnected in many
> > countries.
> >
> >
> >
> > 3.1.9 Rights of Persons with [Mental and Physical] Disabilities:
> >
> >
> > In the inclusive information society, the rights of persons with [mental
> > and
> > physical] disabilities to have full and absolute equal access to
> > information
> > and communications including ICTs, regardless of types and degree of
> > disabilities, must be ensured by laws and policies at all levels.  In
>order
> > to achieve such goal, Universal Design principle and the use of assistive
> > technologies must be seriously promoted and supported throughout the whole
> > process of building and nurturing the information society in which PWDs
>and
> > their organizations must be allowed to participate fully and on equal
>terms
> > with non-disabled people.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you for all your work on this.  Look forward to meeting everyone in
> > Geneva as hoping to arrive Monday morning, however, there is a huge
> > blizzard
> > and snowing now in New York and flights are delayed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Elizabeth
> >
> >
> >
> > Dr. Elizabeth Carll
> >
> > Focal Point
> >
> > International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies
> >
> > Tel: 631-754-2424
> >
> > Fax: 631-754-5032
> >
> > ecarll at optonline.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
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