[WSIS CS-Plenary] CS / ITU interface / Re: [governance] IGC meeting at the IGF
Dr. Francis MUGUET
muguet at mdpi.org
Fri Dec 5 07:40:29 GMT 2008
Dear Jean Louis and Parminder
I agree with Jean-Louis, interfacing with the ITU in an official manner
is a difficult and costly operation,
In my experience, it is mostly a problem orginating from the ITU member
states; some representatives of which are
still living a world frozen in time.
With Touré, I am noticing a real effort from ITU staff however, but
ITU is not like UNESCO, member states are very much involved in a very
Even in supposedly enlightenned western european countries, there are
some ITU delegates that are not
favourable to CS involvement
Therefore it is suggested to form an association based in Geneva, or in
a develloping country
with favourable legal regulations called the
"Conference of WSIS concerned Civil Society". ( CWSISCS )
I suggest "concerned", in order to be more open than "accredited", but
This association being open to NGOs, as well as to individuals.
The cost of ITU-D ( even more ITU-T) being shared between members.
The CWSISCS role being a purely a conduit for the content of its members,
and having a say of its own only concerning procedural matters.
>From exploratory discussions with some ITU staff in their personnal
it seems that the idea of an umbrella CS ITU-member would not be unwelcome,
and would obviate the need of lengthy governemental negotiations.
In general, concerning the whole WSIS process,
the need for CWSISCS is all the more urgent that CONGO has been disengaging
itself from the WSIS/IGF process, with the departure of Philippe.
It is suggested that the role of CWSISCS be not limited to interface
but also ECOSOC, CSTD, and other agencies of the UN system: UNESCO,
as others International organizations such as
OECD where there have been points raised by Milton raised recently about
and many other organizations upon development and work of CWSISCS
All the best
> Dear Parminder
> The second point you are proposing seems very accurate for me. The ITU
> "World Telecommunication Policy Forum on Telecommunications" is
> scheduled in April next year. The "Informal Expert Group" created by a
> decision of the ITU Council, hold so far two meetings (last one one
> week ago in Geneva) for preparing this event. It is composed of 67
> member states represnttativs and of 18 sector members. Unless to say
> that there are NO CS members in that body (we are at ITU, folks !).
> It would be therefore necessary to establish contacts with this group
> for submitting it the most relevant conclusions of the 3rd IGF, as
> inputs to the World Forum, but only as far as they are supported by
> the CS organisations concerned. May be that an "informal CS working
> group" on ITU issues (i.a. reforming the ITU and CS inclusion, role of
> the ITU in Internet governance) will be established in the meantime
> and will be able for submitting some concrete proposals before this
> ITU event.
> All the best
> Jean-Louis fullsack
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Parminder <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>
> *To:* governance at lists.cpsr.org <mailto:governance at lists.cpsr.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:25 AM
> *Subject:* [governance] IGC meeting at the IGF
> Dear All
> As mentioned earlier, IGC members attending the IGF will meet
> today from 1830 to 2030, in Rooms 1.03 and 1.04 combined (HICC 1st
> floor), the same place where Giganet meeting is taking is place.
> Please let us know if you want anything in particular to be taken
> up at the meeting.
> As an IGC member I propose the following three items for the agenda
> 1. IGC organizational issues -- elections etc. Also, whether,
> and if so, how, a funding proposal for the IGC has to be
> explored (as discussed earlier on the list)
> 2. Strategy to engage with ITU, especially with regard to the
> forthcoming ITU policy forum.
> 3. At IGF, Hyderabad, how to push the agenda of seeking to have
> 'rights and the Internet' or a 'rights based approach to
> IG' as the over-arching theme for IGF, Egypt.
> Pl add other issues you want to be taken up.
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