[WSIS CS-Plenary] from laina: Challenging Sub-committee A drafting groups going
into closed sessions
karen banks
karenb at gn.apc.org
Sun Sep 25 23:08:43 BST 2005
Dear all,
Laina asked me to forward this message to the list.
Laina - and all - mailman, the list software we use for most CS WSIS lists
- often rejects messages (or queues messages) with list addresses in the
'cc' line - which may have been the reason this message didn't make it to
the list (though i don't find it in the admin queue)
karen
ps.. and, i do apologise if this is a duplicate (or in fact posted to the
wrong list) - the volume of traffic is high and it's difficult to keep
track of everything
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From Laina in response to Avri:
> Apologies Avri if this appears that I am trying to be difficult or
>speaking on behalf of the Ethics group in the comments I post. I am not
>speaking about the statement we put in that we may feel left out about.
>If this does not go in so be it, but we hope the spirit of it will. I
>already notice on the governance caucus list, the concept of
>"trusteeship" in Governance, which is what our statement is about has
already been discussed.
>
>We have no agenda beyond making the process conducted in the right
>spirit, especially with "inclusiveness" and "multistakeholder". I was
>merely referring to the statement made at Plenary where Jeanette seemed
>to present that IG Caucus had made a decision that if we were not
>allowed in the room, that we should walk out of the remaining process.
>I agreed with the spirit of what she said, but was not sure we had the
>right to decide for everyone in the room.
>
>Sorry if I misunderstood her and I thank you and Bertrand for
>clarifying things for me. I have no issues with Jeanette and have no
>agenda. I do not also speak for all the members of the caucus except
>when we work together to write common statement.
>
>Values and Ethics Caucus stands for very simple principles such as
>ensuring process are kept in the right spirit of bringing people
>together, for peace and unity. No value judgements will ever be made on
>our part on subjective value issues, and we hold no agendas or issues
>on any of the things you mentioned below. I am sorry if I appeared to
>be an instrument of division when I was trying to be an instrument of
>peace and as a facilitator for the smaller voices= to ensure all voices
>are heared. I was getting concerned that the lady from Nepal
>representing indigenous rights, Kiki on a wheel chair, the disabled
>lady from South Africa, etc were going to be left out and suffer
>hardship for having come here all the way, if we took a hardline
>approach to negotiations and we rush so fast that their voices never get
heared or they get so intimidated by our own Civil Society process.
>
>Avri, I truly have appreciated the spirit of your comments and will
>continue to do so. Again, I have no clear views against Jeanette or any
>others, but just want to see the process go through "inclusive" and
"multistakeholder"
>as we are asking the governments to do the same.
>
>Thanks Avri and I hope I have clarified that Values and Ethics has no
>political or value judgement positions beyond that of promoting unity
>and ensuring that even the smallest voice does not get left behind.
>Please also don't take it we are here to judge anyone's values or
>ethics and are fully aware that value can be a subjective things. We
>are all very open minded spirited people, I believe. We are instead
>looking at ensure some universal concepts such as peace and unity at a
>higher level and in the case of Internet Governance= a concept of
"trusteeship" and "shared responsibility"
>for the Internet generation of today and tomorrow. I hope that helps
>clarify where I am coming from.
>
>Thanks,
>Laina
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