[WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: Very good story on the public-Root (fwd)

Joe Baptista baptista at cynikal.net
Sat Dec 17 22:32:45 GMT 2005


Well folks - this is another good story on the public-root.  At the
following URL:

> http://www.netkwesties.nl/editie137/artikel2.html

The article is only available in dutch.

Also found below is a very bad dutch to english translation from babel.

This article discusses the more secretive aspects of the Public-Root and
is the first in which Xennt is mentioned.  Xennt denies he has any other
names other then xennt - in fact xennt is actually one Herman johannes
Xennt.

Can't wait for the stories on Milton Mueller, Michael Froomkin and the
public-root.  Those should be funny in their own right.  Those two
comedians should be known as the "I know nothing twins".

enjoy - this is all ending up in court some day.  worth a giggle.

cheers
joe baptista

>   Here is the best I could do with a web translator:
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>   Dutch company summons top structure Internet
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>   Dutch company UNITD threw the pole-axe in the hoenderhok of the field names: beside com, net and nl suffixes (' top level domains ') the introduction of companies - and type names as a suffix. Therefore www.hypotheek.abnamro and www.loket.minvenw. a lucrative trade awakens, but pecks the Internet community this?
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>   These yielded came there after a quiet period attention of Reuters for the Dutch initiative. Netkwesties had this correct in research and spoke with earlier people concerned of UNITD and produced Article mentioned below. UNITD did the set up new domeinnamenhandel in the meantime the matter of the hand, to a another Dutch company, namely know UnifiedRoot in Amsterdam. That does not determine for the netkwestie themselves this way much, hence nevertheless Article still this with UNITD - and Public Root-woordvoerders which has set up the trade.
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>   It concerns the carrots of Internet, the ' root '. The root servers form one uniform entirely. field Namen, this means suffixes, consequently always formed a consistent whole. Traditionally have you com (companies), org (organisations), gov (governments), edu (education), arpa (for the inventors themselves) and mil (defence). Thereby occurred in 1985 net, (telecom)netten and in 1988 int, for international organisations such as the UN and the EU, and recent also eu.
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>   In the meantime there also country suffixes, this means 244 came top level domains (in jargon ' TLD's ') for each recognised national state. With those wide 250 field-extensive the Internet had provide for a long time for its web addressing.
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>   After the transfer in November 1998 of the field management of the American ministry of trade to a private organisation, the Icann, a discussion never ceasing has been concerning extension of fields.
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>   More competition had, thus reasoning sounded, lead to less shortage of field names. That could be brought about with the additive of new suffixes. Then you could spend more time Johnson and Jansen etc as fields.
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>   Eventually came for businesses biz and info and pro (for self-employed persons), plus name for individuals. In the previous years there, under large external very, sponsored suffixes such as aero for aviation in management at the Sita, coop (of DotCooperation LLC) and museum of the museum Domain management Association came (MuseDoma). Recent still Travel and jobs came as sponsored TLD's. The extensions were far from consistent, nor came about them on a fraaie manner. But also the original with suffixes as arpa en.mil of the direct interested parties had been already weaned of independence, how very the oerinternetters want do believe also differently.
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>   The Internet carrot
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>   The new top level names have been added to the ' root ' as it is called this way nicely, the central hierarchy of Internet, with which they have been accepted officially. Providers on the Internet incorporate fields with the new suffixes in the route ring of their Ip-nummers that with the addresses coincide. They do to that with the Domain nasty servers so that you can come with typing in coop and museum also on these fields. Converting field name to Ip-adres are ' to resolve ', and Dutch technicians speak easily of the ' resolven '.
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>   The Icann and executant IANA had the matter still reasonable in the hand, because the uniformity of the root remained in score. Attacks on the system came there, however. This way of it once talk was that China own ' root ' wild because she distrusted the American power shaping with field names as the plague. But that was prevented.
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>   That will have put forward the question if the Chinese ' root ' had linked must become with the general ' root '. Given the increase of the Internet in China was that inescapable are. That had damaged the uniformity of the system, found most of the drivers of the Icann and with them the Internet standardisation body IETF and supervision holder Internet Architecture board (IAB). Under them for example the Dutch Kees Neggers, director of Surfnet, and professor Erik Huizer, formerly Surfnet and now NOB.
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>   Thousand dollars
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>   Now then the party UNIDT dives. This state for ' Unified Identity Technology '. This organisation, a Dutch Ltd, raises himself as an editor of alternative field names. She calls himself on its site Unitd.com the ' official worldwide registrar or corporate top Level Domains '.
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>   What that is Jody Daniel Newman explain on the office of UNIDT in Amsterdam. He is telecomadviseur in Georgia (VS) which have been engaged for marketing. UNIDT form new of top level domains or TLD's. Organisations can directly and by means of providers which we contract still field suffixes register with their own company name. You get then for example www.careers.brinks or www.press.brinks. a company is, with its important departments then directly traceable without com or nl suffix. Organisations must also no longer their register field in all countries. They can place the national establishments for their own top level domain also.
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>   This costs by top field, say to Newman, one-off 1,000 dollars and afterwards 250 dollars per year. Many people say that this much is too a little and we can catch much more. But us go it for cover of the costs. That thousand dollars are no point for large concerns.
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>   Secret agent
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>   The question who has the shares of UNIDT in hands could not answer Newman directly, later he calls Marty van Veluw. He was as from 1977 active with the datacombedrijf of aviation organisation Sita, now France Telecom-dochter Equant: Three years are suffered I have abruptly stopped with work. And recent I ran up all of a sudden against this possibility.
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>   That possibility concerns spending named field names. But for that an agreement necessary with Public Root was. This is an organisation of eigenaren of root-servers on the Internet. Already complete long the possibility exists own of registering TLD's. Van Veluw: But there has been hardly used. It are technicians who have no eye for commercie. But we have been possible make good agreements as first party. We their faith has been possible will offer and fields on the Public Root.
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>   Public-Root.com are the site with the information. In the Firefox - and Mozilla nor in the Internet Explorer browsers are read the site decently. We get a phone number of a contact, who is strictly secret is said by means of UNIDT. The man on the other hand of the line calls himself Xennt: "This way am called I for years in the community. My first name does not do."
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>   Xennt confirm to the reading of Marty van Veluw that there an agreement have been closed with Public-Root. Why now just field issue? Xennt: "We are total a-commercieel. We wear in principle of commercial people no high cap. We want further also nothing with the trade do have."
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>   Xennt do not want answer the question to the income for Public Root. Van Veluw is, however, transparent: "Half of income goes to Public Root, therefore 500 dollars by registration and 125 dollars per year for the maintenance. We must also the providers which fields spend pay and hard and let build software and maintained. I value that UNIDT will keep about 50 dollars by registration."
>   Xennt say on the question what Public-Root with all think of will do this money: "That is for development of Internet. We spend that good. He has been paid himself in service of Public Root."
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>   Newman say also that the initiative stipulated no commercial box-office success will becomes, but does not close that at large-scale sale of fields the dollars will roll, however. Moreover UNIDT the possibility has type names as a suffix of will conduct, such as wine and sex. companies smaller can buy there than a field under. Fields and prices are according to Newman still unknown.
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>   War with the Icann
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>   In short: here a terrible possibility also lies, anyway for UNIDT and according to this party for organisations. Newman: "Can commit their second and third level under the top field himself to fill in. Them to assist we a complete standard structure have already set up which commit is able takes over, voluntarily."
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>   Come there at last standardisation in the presentation of sites, but that cannot nevertheless enforce UNIDT? Newman: "We do not force organisations. Companies want nevertheless gladly that their customers as much as possible arrive on the correct spot. They look at money transport EUR Brinks with much interest to the new structure, for example. Many companies sit with an old illogical web structure and It-mensen must try the visitors lead with doorverwijzingen to the correct spot."
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>   But you have this way many companies which Brinks are called, therefore there are again shortage. Newmand: "Jawel, you have also for ford and delta many organisations with that name." All about 3,000 companies have registered their own field since that possible it has been since 1995. "the commercialisering add we because that is the Public Root technicians forgets."
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>   But the large question is if those fields are accepted by the Internet community, if them everywhere uniform comes in addressing and well is of course converted. Xennt van Public Root think that its club can regulate this. Newman say to that om.die.reden providers as possible also as many are approached: "they can deserve to the wederverkoop of names and must then cooperate in the ' resolve '."
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>   Newman say that it becomes time for freedom: "Overcontrole have been. Lack to transparency and to objectivity and exuberant influence of the merknamenlobby. The merknamenlobby had been always provided, but undeserved."
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>   But now come there a collision with the Icann? Newman: "UNITD are not negative concerning Icann, it no attack is. There are there complete malignant people who discuss the possibilities and border. For seven years have already been spoken in the Icann concerning the extension of the fields with the Public Root. But in April 2005 still diezelfde subjects on the agenda stood. Hardly something has happened concrete."
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>   Its own euro coin to start
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>   Undermines you Tld-syteem with separate new root and Dns-structuur? There its many Internet technicians who have bent themselves about this. An argument is that the system does not manage it. Many other technicians find that nonsense says and that the namensysteem know no restrictions concerning top level fields. Underlying Bind-software manage that. There are enough proofs for.
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>   And the separate root? There is no operational problem with new TLD's, at the most the status quo in the hands of the interest groups is threatened. There are fundamental questions but that we do not go from the way. We contract the discussion. If really a problem would be, then were we here never started.
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>   The internetgemeenscchap are not amused. The foundation Internet field lets the Netherlands (SIDN) know in a response to this Article: "Is repeat here much. This does not carry away our approval, and this Article reflects excellent which tension lies there."
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>   Boudewijn Nederkoorn, former president of the SIDN and director of Surfnet: "I am already tijdje no longer active in field names wereldje but I can answer on this question still from my ruggemerg. Already in the days of Postel and entirely in the beginning time of ICANN the alternative root lobby were noisy but at the same time extraordinary impotent."
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>   "If the policy of the European bank you no longer please and your something else want then the euro as a tender then can you of course as a company paper buy and guilders will press. And then hope that companies and individuals whom as a tender will accept. But unfortunately for them happens that not this way rapidly. And with that the tale has been, however, approximately told."
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>   But a confrontation wait UNIDT without more. Rather a similar attempt has been undertaken, thus we read in the analen of the Icann. That was called New.net, also based on separate root which had be linked with original. With a bulky number of arguments the Icann have brushed aside that. UNITD can conclude already permanently a legal assistance insurance...
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>   [ Peter Olsthoorn, 2 December 2005 ]
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> Joe Baptista <baptista at cynikal.net> wrote:
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> Cesidio - you should translate and send it out.
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> http://www.netkwesties.nl/editie137/artikel2.html
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> cheers
> joe
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