[Africa-CS-WSIS]Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] SV: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Déclaration de la Société Civile SMSI - Version DRAFT en Français PROPOSITIONS DE CORRECTION
djilali benamrane
dbenamrane at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 14 12:32:59 GMT 2005
Dear Pierre,
Thanks for your message,
I wonder South Civile Society members becoming more
active in discussions, regardless items and
proposals....
African Causus did a real and huge progress
participating actively to various WSIS debates... We
do must improve our visibility, our effectiveness, our
agreement and desagrement with any proposal. Where are
colleagues from Asia, Arab countries and or from
Latino America ???????
I personnaly have a great admiration regarding what
Meriem, Jean Louis, Francis and others colleagues did
and are doing to give credibility and effectiveness to
the Civile society general status, but if some among
us desagree with some position (and it is normal in
Democracy) we have to say it, to write it, to explain
and reexplain and somewhere the truth must be between
different positions and we have to accept it in the
end.
In one of the last Rikk's proposal of the draft :
experiencies, difficulties and insufficiencies lived
in Geneva and Tunis Summits have been related and
somewhere compared to underline that even if the
background and expectations are totally different in
the two countries, it has not been easy to do
everything in Geneva and somewhere it has not been
easy to do every thing in Tunis (i remember for
example that Young protest the last day against the
Summit in Geneva, which can be considered as a Side
Event, has been forbiden and discrashed by Geneva
Security authorities and as i remeber this Event has
not been mentionned in the CS Statement). I said in
our last Geneva meeting to the colleagues let's
remember what we are living here and how we are
reacting because in Tunis we shall be there and we
have to be fair in our positions, actions and
reactions.
Tunisians, with all difficulties of an underdeveloped
country did their best to organize as well as they can
the Summit and we have not to underline only bad
aspect, human right insuficiencies...
Everybody can draft complementary documents on his own
behalf or on behalf of his organization and develop
discussions and lobbying arround his own feeling but
an offical statement must be consensual.
I propose to delete non consensual componient of the
statement and let colleagues who want to express their
point of view to do it in other documents.
Best regards
Djilali
--- bapdem pierre <partners95 at yahoo.fr> wrote:
> from: Pierre Chekem
> Partnership Coordinator
> P.O.Box 7124 Doula, Cameroon
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>
> Douala, 13thDecember 2005.
>
> As participant to the Tunis Summit and member of
> the African civil
> society, may I recall that we were very surprised
> by the propaganda
> organised by many non African media against the
> summit.
>
> Despite the efforts deployed to make the summit
> fail, we know that
> this summit was one of the UN most successful one
> organised.
>
> I understand that men and women can disagree even
> on human
> rights issues since the priorities of Africa
> maynot be the priorities
> of other continents. But as civil society
> organisations, we must
> reach a fair consensus and generally agree on our
> differences
> when they arise. Publishing as consensus a
> unilateral position
> may not be fair.
>
> Somebody should care somewhere on the false image
> of Africa
> portrayed by the majority of western media and
> fair communication
> and consensus among civil society organisations
> can help in this.
>
> I wish to thank all those who don't only keep a
> false image of
> what happen in the Tunis summit.
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Pierre Chekem
> Partnership Coordinator,
>
> ================================================
>
>
>
> djilali benamrane <dbenamrane at yahoo.com> a écrit :
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>
> Dear Rikke,
> Sorry, i red your message after sending mine,
> calling
> colleagues to stop if possible this debate.
> I do not agree with your explanation and as long as
> we
> dont agree on a commun version you cannot consider
> it
> as a consensual one.
> You can if you want propose a new text indicating
> that
> the CS has been divided and report on the two
> versions, but please don't take an unilateral
> position....
> best regards
>
> Je ne partage pas la proposition de Rikke et je
> préfère personnellement que dans le texte il y ait
> une
> indication sur les deux positions et interprétations
> de la société civile en la matière. Sinon nous
> tirerons les conséquences d'une disposition prise
> unilatéralement.
> Amitiés
>
> --- Rikke Frank Joergensen wrote:
>
> > Dear nana and all
> >
> > The CSIS was not a parallel event to WSIS (the
> ones
> > which took place at the official space as part of
> > the official agenda), but a side event. Its normal
> > procedure at UN Summits to hold side events,
> outside
> > the official summit space and open to the general
> > public, incl. non accredited entities. CSIS was
> such
> > an event and was publicly announced and recognised
> > by the WSIS secretariat and govn. delegations
> > several weeks before the summit. We even had
> formal
> > correspondence with diplomates who wanted to
> attend
> > CSIS as speakers or audience.
> >
> > I believe its important to flag in a
> > "fair-to-the-facts way" the obstacles which CS met
> > in holding the side events both in Geneve (We
> Seize)
> > and in Tunis (CSIS). I actually think it would be
> > unfair to ask us to delete such important
> > information. To my mind, the formulations in the
> > current draft by ralf are as diplomatic as we can
> > reasonably expect to be. I hope we can agree to
> this
> > language.
> >
> > best
> > Rikke
> >
> > -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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> > Delphine
> > Sendt: lø 10-12-2005 23:18
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> > Emne: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Déclaration de la Société
> > Civile SMSI - Version DRAFT en Français
> PROPOSITIONS
> > DE CORRECTION
> >
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> >
> >
> > Chers Tous,
> >
> > En la lisant, le draft de la déclaration de la
> > Société Civile SMSI, beaucoup des membres de la
> > société civile africaine ont remarqué que dans
> > l'avant dernier paragraphe du chapitre sur les
> > droits de l'homme, il est dit que le Sommet
> Citoyen
> > qui est un évenement parallele a été empeché de se
> > tenir. En consultant par la suite la liste des
> > évenements parrallèles "side events" sur le site
> du
> > sommet), cela ne semble pas être le cas.
> >
> > En plus, il a été convenu dans la reunion de la
> > plenière de la societe civile du Vendredi 18
> > Novembre 2005 que le contenu de cette declaration
> > doit faire l'objet du consensus général au sein de
> > la societe civile, et la question du Sommet
> Citoyen
> > ne rentre pas dans le
> > consensus.
> > Par conséquent, la société civile africaine par
> > ma voix, se désolidarise de ce point qui ne
> > correspond pas à sa position et demande son
> > annulation.
> >
> > Delphine NANA MEKOUNTE
> > Présidente ACSIS ( African Civil Society for the
> > Information Society)
> > Coordinatrice Générale CEFEPROD
> > Statut Consultatif Spécial ECOSOC
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