[WSIS CS-Plenary] Collaboration software debate

[djilali benamrane]

Mon cher Jean Louis,
Il est difficile pour les gens bien intentionnés dont
le seul mérite est d'être nés au Nord et ou dans des
pays riches et ou dans les couches au pouvoir de
comprendre la détresse et la désespérance de centaines
de millions de personnes qui vivent dans la grande
misère et le dénuement éducatif, sanitaire et
numérique.
C'est un dialogue de sourd et c'est révoltant lorsque
des attitudes méprisantes viennent de collègues qui
veulent parler au nom de la société civile du Nord et
du Sud... Si la société civile a une seule mission
c'est celle de défendre les intérêts des laisser pour
compte et cela nos amis du Nord doivent le comprendre
une bonne foi pour toute.
Amitiés
Djilali
As long as the civile society representive refuse to
commit themselves to support the tragedy of population
in the South surviving in inacceptable conditions of
poverty in education, health, food, information and
other digital sectors we do face within ourselves a
big, very big misunderstanding.
All the best
Djilali  
--- Jean-Louis FULLSACK <jlfullsack at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> Federico wrote :
> "the fascination with cool
> new toys may be causing some fellow caucus members
> lose sight of how bad
> an idea it is to move part of the debate to a realm
> in which people
> without broadband and fat machines cannot
> participate"
> 
> You are right and your comment would be perfect if
> you add : "high level skills in both hw and sw
> hadling and mastering"
> We are lots of people who are just able to send
> e-mails and write documents with our "machine". But
> I stress that we have a lot of ideas and of
> commitment to share !
> Isn't that the originanlity and the role of CS in
> the WSIS ?
> I'd just remind to everybody that CS didn't have
> such sophisticated tools during phase 1 of the WSIS
> and hawever it happened to be present, active ant
> reactive. Far more than in the presnt phase!
> Jean-Louis Fullsack
> CSDPTT-France 
> 
> 
> 
> > Message du 14/04/05 01:58
> > De : "Federico Heinz" 
> > A : plenary at wsis-cs.org
> > Copie à : 
> > Objet : Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Collaboration
> software debate
> > 
> > On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 18:22 -0500, Taran Rampersad
> wrote:
> > > Who are you representing here, Federico?
> > 
> > I am a member of this caucus, concerned that the
> fascination with cool
> > new toys may be causing some fellow caucus members
> lose sight of how bad
> > an idea it is to move part of the debate to a
> realm in which people
> > without broadband and fat machines cannot
> participate.
> > 
> > > If you don't see a need for software, then I
> don't see the need for
> > > this discussion to continue
> > 
> > You continue to ignore the issue, and I'm starting
> to hope that you are
> > doing it deliberately, because I'm running out of
> ways to explain it to
> > you. Certainly there are people and circumstances
> for which such
> > software would be useful. I'm just pointing out
> that the use of this
> > kind of tool for CS caucus' purposes would be a
> mistake, because it will
> > exclude people which could very well participate
> using the current
> > tools.
> > 
> > > It's apparent to me that there is a need for
> software for
> > > online collaboration which meets the needs of
> the Civil Society plenary,
> > > and there has been such a need.
> > 
> > Great! If it is so apparent to you, then it will
> be very easy for you to
> > substantiate this need. Please, do tell us.
> > 
> > Fede
> > 
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> ico wrote :

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