[Lac] Re: Lac digest, Vol 1 #736 - 2 msgs
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> 1. Fw: [hipatia] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lib=E9ration/?= France: Accord
MS/UNESCO (Diego Saravia)
> 2. Fw: [hipatia] [muguet at mdpi.org: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary]
Microsoft-UNESCO - agreement / accord] (Diego Saravia)
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> From: "Diego Saravia" <dsa at unsa.edu.ar>
> To: mistica at funredes.org
> Cc: lac at wsis-cs.org, solar-general at lists.ourproject.org
> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 09:04:33 -0300
> Subject: [Lac] Fw: [hipatia] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lib=E9ration/?= France: Accord
MS/UNESCO
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> Subject: [hipatia] Libération/ France: Accord MS/UNESCO
>
> Saiu hoje (05/01) no "Libération" França:
> http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=265884
>
> Crítica ao acordo da Microsoft com a UNESCO assinada por
> Sergio Amadeu da Silveira, do "Instituto Nacional de Tecnologia da
> Informação (governo brasileiro)";
> Benoît Sibaud da "Association pour la promotion et la recherche en
> informatique libre"
> e Frédéric Couchet da "Fondation du logiciel libre"
>
> Bill Gates à la conquête du Sud
>
> Le partenariat entre Microsoft et l'Unesco risque d'assujettir les
> pays en développement.
>
> _______________________________________________
> lista coordinadores-hipatia
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> --
> Diego Saravia
> dsa at unsa.edu.ar
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> Message: 2
> From: "Diego Saravia" <dsa at unsa.edu.ar>
> To: lac at wsis-cs.org
> Cc: mistica at funredes.org
> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 23:35:38 -0300
> Subject: [Lac] Fw: [hipatia] [muguet at mdpi.org: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary]
Microsoft-UNESCO - agreement / accord]
> Reply-To: lac at wsis-cs.org
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> From: Juan-Carlos Gentile <jucar at hipatia.info>
> To: coordinadores-hipatia <coordinadores-hipatia at listas.hipatia.info>
> Sent: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:31:47 -0500
> Subject: [hipatia] [muguet at mdpi.org: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary]
Microsoft-UNESCO -
> agreement / accord]
>
> English/French
>
> Hello
>
> This agreement is already under discussion in the PCT and Finance groups
>
> I went to the Press Conference at UNESCO.
> Be re-assured, the welcome to Bill Gates was not triumphal,
> and the Press was unamimously negative.
> The text of the Microsoft/ UNESCO agreement which I
> was able to retrieve at UNESCO and that was kindly
> scanned by Marie-Laure from http://www.bpem.org
> is available on site.
> http://www.wsis-finance.org/gov-doc-en.html
> it is also available at
> http://www.wsis-pct.org/unesco-miscrosoft.html
>
> The authorized translation of the article in English is
>
>
http://www.april.org/articles/divers/tribune-microsoft-unesco-liberation.htm
l.en
>
> ( thanks to Fredéric Couchet , one of the authors who belongs to the PCT
> group )
>
> >Unesco remains totally silent regarding critiques or requests for
> >clarification on this agreement.
>
> Our request that the text of the agreement be available online had no
> effect.
> Replies were evasive.
> It would have been better than our scanned images.
>
> We believe that the agreement has some legal flaws that might allow the
> Civil
> Society to ask the WSIS to demand that the texts of the agreement be
> modified. This is under study, and all people with a legal background
> are asked to join the PCT and the Finance groups to discuss further those
> points.
>
> >By the way, UNDP and IDRC have signed similar agreements with M$. Ah,
> >the power of money...
> >
> If you have the texts or URLs of those agreement, please let us know.
>
> Best regards
>
> Francis
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------
> Français
>
> Bonjour
>
> J'ai assisté à la conférence de Presse de l'UNESCO.
> Rassurez vous ! l'accueil pour Bill Gates ne fut pas triomphal,
> et la presse fut très critique.
> Le texte de l'accord Microsoft/ UNESCO
> ( uniquement en Anglais ) que j'ai recupéré à l'UNESCO
> et qui a été gentiment scanné par Marie-Laure chez
> http://www.bpem.org est disponible sur le site.
> http://www.wsis-finance.org/gov-doc-en.html
>
> et aussi sur
> http://www.wsis-pct.org/unesco-miscrosoft.html
>
> Notre requète que le texte de l'accord soit en mis en ligne
> et qu'il soit aussi traduit en Français n'a pas été fructueuse.
> Bravo pour la transparence et la diversité linguistique !
>
> Le texte de l' accord possède des failles juridiques qui devraient
> permettre à la Société Civile de demander au SMSI d'exiger
> de l'UNESCO de modifier le texte de cet accord.
> Ceci est à l'étude. Toute personne possèdant un bagage
> juridique est invitée à joindre les groupes PCT et Finance
> pour une discussion plus approfondie.
>
> Cordialement
>
> Francis
>
> >--c.a.
> >
> >Rui Correia wrote:
> >
> >>Dear All
> >>
> >>Herewith a rushed translation of the French text found in the link
> >>provided
> >>by Martin Oliveira to the French newspaper in which it was published
> >>today.
> >>The translation was fed through translation software and then
> >>polished up
> >>where necessary for comprehension - it is far form being a perfect
> >>product;
> >>it was done only in the interest of sharing this article. The names
> >>of the
> >>authors and their affiliation appear at bottom
> >>
> >>Regards, Rui
>
>>__________________________________________________________________________
_
> >>
> >>Liberation newspaper, Paris - 5/1/2005
> >>
> >>On November 17, Bill Gates, on a trip to Paris, returned visit to the
> >>head
> >>office of UNESCO to sign an agreement of partnership with the
> >>organization.
> >>The agreement defines eight objectives for which UNESCO and Microsoft
> >>[...]
> >>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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> >>ca at rits.org.br http://www.rits.org.br
> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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